Dani Colic: Transforming Pain into Power – A Journey from War Survivor to Empowered Voice

We're joined by the beautiful Dani who shares her incredible journey of survival, resilience and personal growth. From escaping war-torn Bosnia to navigating the complexities of life, Dani reflects on her family history, spiritual beliefs and the transformative power of pain. She emphasises the importance of living in the present, overcoming trauma and supporting each other through genuine connections. 

• 00:00 Welcome to Club Quantum
• 00:40 A Festive Reunion
• 01:41 The Power of Eyes and Memories
• 02:46 Spiritual Connections and Family
• 03:46 The Essence of Witchcraft
• 07:09 The Magic of Words and Frequencies
• 09:19 Sound Healing and Ancient Wisdom
• 14:26 A Journey Through War and Survival
• 36:49 Introduction to Womb Awakening
• 37:37 The Concept of Quantum Healing
• 38:52 Personal Development and Coaching
• 39:23 Educational Ventures and Business Philosophy
• 40:32 Strong Community Lead and Workshops
• 41:48 Embracing Darkness and Self-Worth
• 43:50 The Birth of Club Quantum
• 45:11 Creating a Conscious Community Space
• 50:52 Boss Babe Mindset and Personal Boundaries
• 01:00:07 Living in the Present Moment
• 01:06:23 Gratitude and Acceptance
• 01:06:49 Conclusion and Farewell

Co-founder of Club Quantum, Dani is an entrepreneur, mentor, speaker and advisor dedicated to helping companies, startups, governments and visionary individuals bring innovative ideas to market. She focuses on transforming concepts into impactful, market-ready products while emphasising the importance of life and business balance.  

As a management and strategy consultant, author and publisher, she operates in over 65 countries, delivering edtech solutions and advisory services across sectors like military, aviation, and education.  

From empowering startups to guiding government entities, she's passionate about turning bold visions into measurable growth and mentoring others to find harmony between their professional and personal lives.

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Websites: https://clubsquantum.com/ https://www.trippypanther.com/
Echoes of Exile: (her poetry book on Amazon Kindle) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CWQNP9CX

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Transcript

 Welcome to How to Reign When It's Raining, a podcast that celebrates stories of resilience, strength and limitless potential. This podcast is for you if you're seeking inspiration, advice or practical guidance to transform your mindset and create a life you love.  There truly are no limits to what you can achieve. 

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 Hi, it's Abi and Dolina. Welcome back Reignmakers. Tomorrow is the deadline for you to share your Christmas stories with us for our Christmas special episode next week. So make sure you send us an email or direct message. It can be a family tradition, a festive fail or a memory of something that still lights you up at this time of year.  Your story just might be what somebody needs to hear. 

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In today's powerful and moving episode, we're joined by the incredible Dani whose story will inspire you to see life through a new lense. From surviving unthinkable hardships during the Bosnian war, to building a life rooted in resilience, purpose, and healing, Dani's journey is a testament to the strength of the human spirit.  We dive into the transformative power of alchemising pain, living in the present, and embracing the lessons life delivers, even when they're wrapped up in struggle.

Danny shares how our upbringing, cultural influences, and personal growth have shaped her unique perspective on creating a life of meaning and impact. We explore themes of boundaries, gratitude, and the beauty of connecting with your authentic self. Plus we talk about why it's okay to rewrite your story and redefine what success and happiness means to you. 

You don't want to miss this heartfelt conversation filled with wisdom, actionable insights, and a reminder that no matter where you have been, You can always rain when it's raining. So please welcome Daniela Ćolić. 

Hello!  

Hi!  

Hi Dani

I was trying to figure out the Sonos speakers in the club and to turn them off.
  
Oh!  Yeah, you've just got  pumping music in the background.

I've had to turn them off on both sides now, so we're okay.  

Sounds like we could have had a little party, like a welcome party.

I love the  club. Club Quantum's just beautiful, isn't it? 

Is that a peacock in the background I can see? 

I know, like where should I sit? Because if I turn it around, you see we've got the tree, I don't know if you can see it. 

Oh I can see the tree in the background,  oh it looks so festive. It's beautiful. This makes me excited because I'm coming back for Christmas. In a week on Friday, so I can actually meet you in person because mum, every time mum has mentioned you, she just lights up. Right. And then she says the most beautiful things about you and I'm like, right, I need to meet this girl.  

Well, this girl is amazing. Abi meet Danny. Thank you so much for joining us.
It's really nice to have a conversation with you because I know that when we spoke at the event I was at that your eyes, oh my goodness,  just your soul, your spirit was just shining through your eyes so much. And I don't think I've ever seen that as powerful in anyone as I've seen it in you.

Oh, thank you so much, Dolly.

I know your mom, I call Dolina Dolly. I just love it.  It's perfect for her. 
It takes me back because when I was younger, my grandmother used to, so my part of my family are Muslim and  in their religion, the eyes are quite an important part of the entry into the soul.  And she always used to say those eyes are going to tell some stories and they are the entry into the soul.
And then she used to say this prayer of protection,  like against the evil eyes,  for my eyes, which is really cute. So you saying that brought back a lot of memories and sadly,  recently last month,  we lost my grandmother.  I think you were a very kind of, a time, a very emotional time, I think.
And then when you said that, it really synchronised with what she used to say.  And yeah, in Arabic, the eyes are the window to the soul. So I think that the eyes tell a lot about a person. 

That's so funny when you say part of my family is Muslim because my father was Muslim. 

Really? 

Yes. Yeah. 

Ah.  So I didn't know that about you.

I should really say the majority of mine are, but now with the kids and the kids having kids,  things change and some of us are very spiritual and atheists and some of us are Muslim  and there are Catholics in the family,  so a great mix really.

Yes, I was brought up Catholic and, but when I found my biological father, he was Muslim. So I'm a bit of a mix as well. So it's,  maybe that's why I recognised it.

Yeah.  Wow. 

So synchronicity, as you were just saying, with you, going through that and losing your grandmother, who sounded,  Wonderful. She sounded beautiful. I love what you just said about  the protection prayer.
And then,  for mum to actually, because mum's a bit of a witch,  a good witch. She is. She's just, she's so intuitive and always has been and psychic. And she always says, Oh no, I'm not. No, I'm not. But she is. She picks up on things.  

I was raised by them  and I was taught a lot by them.
Your mother definitely is of the traditional witch and I think these days,  witches have such negative connotations, but actually traditionally a witch was a woman who would work with. plants and herbals and create potions and medicines for healing. They were a healer and they were women of intuition who lived by the moon, lived by their cycles,  traditionally supported men into war because their intuition led a lot of the time.
And I think that recently,  the last couple of hundred years, 300 years or so,  the idea of witchcraft and witches and that whole,  concept of,  all in black with a cat and a broom has been materialized  from the media, I'm afraid. So I think that, yeah, your mother definitely has Witchy vibes. 

Yeah. Yeah. 

And you know what? You so wore that outfit at Halloween.  

Oh yeah.  

I was Morticia at Halloween. 

Brilliant.  I love it. 

Do you know what? You're so right because, I was talking to somebody  about witch wounds and um, They were saying pretty much what you just said about the fact that, it's only society over the past few hundred years that have, it's something that they couldn't understand.
So when they didn't understand something, they're scared of something, and then it's turned into,  This is a threat. This is something bad.  And as you say, portrayed  doing bad things to people, putting spells on people, et cetera, et cetera. But actually really they're just,  what's the word I'm looking for? I think they were just alchemists. 

Yes, they're alchemists. 

Yes.  

Magic.  I believe so. They work with magic and transforming pain,  utilising nature, trees,  herbals and things like that to heal people. And they would listen. There's this huge thing in society at the moment. I feel like how many people are actually listening?
And I think, I hit it off with your mum so well, because that evening, honestly, when we actually got to have a chat after meeting on a few occasions previously, we stood at a bar, quite a busy kind of surrounding event. And,  I remember there was quite a lot of ladies behind us and we just hit this conversation off and did not move from that spot.
And we didn't disconnect the eyes either. 

It was absolutely magical. 

It was, it was so engaging and you know, and it was just, 

We were in our own little bubble, weren't we? 

Yeah.  And  and all of this was going on around us, but we were oblivious to it. Yeah,  and I think what was quite fascinating about that moment, and this is where synchronicity  is so key to, I think, healing and overcoming,  is within that moment that we spoke,  sometimes there's just an energy that you know, and you can share. 
You can share happiness, pain, life experience, history, what you want to do with your life,  and give each other advice and share about family with someone you've just met because the energy is just correct and it feels like you've known them lifetimes ago.  And, you know, an individual, I don't know if you, if you ladies have ever read or heard about word magic, but the word individual, if you split it,  The second part, the Jewel, is to do with your Jewel,  capabilities as a human being.
It's your spiritual,  and your astral realm, and then your physical realm. And we are all  the intertwined serpent sign where we have the two jewels that kind of work as one individual.  

Is that why the serpent is on the bar?  

There are serpents everywhere. 

Oh my goodness. 

So I've got this  beautiful one on the bar at Club  Quantum.

Oh my goodness. 

I love that symbolism. My goodness, that, do you know, I don't actually know much about word magic, but something that I've learned in my own personal development journey, is that quite often I'll be listening to a mentor,  or somebody that I admire on a podcast or reading a book or whatever, and they break down the word,  in a way that I've never thought about that word before, and that must be why they do it, right?
because of what you just said. Wow, that's so interesting. I find that fascinating. I'm going to have to look into that. 
And it goes deeply as words like the word hate compared to the word love. So the hurts that you speak at or the way that the pronunciation works. If you took a Petri dish full of water and you said I hate you. I hate you. I hate you to this Petri dish and you froze it. And then you took another Petri dish and you said, I love you. I love you. I love you filled with water and you froze it. If you take them both out at the same time, have a look at the difference of , the breakage, the waves, the crystals within the frozen Petri dishes in comparison to what you have spoken. So it's to do with language being created on a level that yes, it's symbolic, but also it's very, very maintained and controlled so that the hurts that the words are pronounced,  at does have , an instant effect on us as human beings and on animals and on plants.

Yeah. 

So, This is again to do with modern day witchcraft. 

But what you were just saying there,  I used to write and make music and I sing  I meditate every day and a lot of the meditations, uh, music are at a certain frequency and there's lots of different frequencies for healing as well. I love this conversation already, but actually we've just started following somebody.  I'll find out and I'll get mum to message you. Because he actually makes, house music, which I absolutely adore, but he makes it at this,  healing  frequency,  and everything that he just  posts about and, you know, when you just really resonate with somebody, and as you said, the energy, I've never met this person before, and it's through Instagram, but instantly I could feel this connection.
And that's what it's all about, isn't it? You know, what you were saying about the ice and the hate and the love. It just reminded me of, and I know this isn't the same thing,  but it reminded me of limitations and there was an experiment Years ago that they did with fleas. I don't know if you've heard of it and you've got fleas in the jar and the fleas, they have the lid on the jar, they're trying to jump out and  they can't jump out. They take the lid off the jar and the fleas don't even try to jump Out of the jar, because they've been,  they're like, this is my limitation. And what's really sad is their babies only jump to that point as well.  They won't then can continue to jump out. And I just think the mind and the words that you speak and everything to do with NLP, it just absolutely fascinates me.  

Ditto. And,  I guess another thing in common with your mum is I studied NLP at university when I studied linguistics and psychology and psycholinguistics.
I did do quite a lot of it back in the day. And I find the mind,  matter and frequencies, energies, like absolutely fascinating. And our bodies are made of,  70 odd percent water. So frequencies, healing frequencies and sounds  when they're put into water, vibrate even higher.   And  I've actually been part of sound healing in the past.
So I've gone to events and had sound healers in my life and around me. And recently there's been,  an experiment in Asia. So I used to live in Asia.  Back in the day,   one of the first companies that I started, we had an operating entity in China.  And I have to say a lot of what I've gathered, learned and carried through, when it comes to  being a herbalist and,  healing as naturally as possible has come from China. 

Wow. 

And a lot of the studies in terms of. frequency and energy has come from my travels throughout Asia.  And they're recently experimenting with sound healing in hospitals. So they're walking around hospitals with sound healing drums and just playing them,  and allowing the frequencies into the patients.

Are they doing that in the UK or where are they doing that? 

In the UK, I haven't seen it happening yet, but there are plenty of,  sound healing sessions here that you can go to. Research to show how sound healing can break down cancer cells.  But I haven't seen it used in hospitals here.
And also, in Russia and, in Egypt. Crystals are in walls, in hospital walls because of  their radiating powers and the frequencies that  they radiate at to heal patients. 

I'm just, I feel like I should just like grab my crystals right now cause they're just sitting next to me. 

We're  getting there.  We're getting there. Everything that was passed,  and utilised once to heal, help and support. If we can bring that back,  and use it in the right ways, I feel like we can all help each other. And I feel like women, a circle of women supporting each other, is the way to bring those women's circles back together as well, you know?

Yeah, absolutely. 

Just us talking about supporting each other and helping each other and healing each other.  When I first became a hypnotherapist and my studies at university,  one of my books was the initial,  healers, shamans  were the hypnotherapists and,  there was the Marcus and he used to tie  his people around a tree with a rope. So there was a group of them round a big tree and they held hands and they would chant  and they would heal each other like that. And that was the start of the kind of shamanistic and healing movement. It was, it's amazing. 

It's amazing. Absolutely amazing. In Japan, the doctors still prescribe, go for a walk in the forest as a Christmas.

Really? That's amazing. And do you know what? It just makes me want, Japan is probably the top place on my list for my, cause I've never been.  It's even more cemented now. 

Dani, I wanted to ask you about your grandmother and where she lived and where you were brought up, because were you in the former Yugoslavia?
Were you Croatian? 

Yes. 

Yes. I thought you were. 

Yes. 

You've had such a life,  it's unbelievable really. 

So I know, right?  You wouldn't believe it. 

And you are so young. I mean, you and Abi are similar ages, aren't you?

I'm 37. 

Yeah, I'm 38. 

Oh, there you go. Yeah, very similar.  

Wow. 

Oh, you're a rabbit in Chinese sign. So  rabbits love teaching. Did you know that?

Yes, they do. 

Yeah, they're educators. 

Yes, and very creative as well. 

Absolutely. Yeah.  So, originally I'm from former Yugoslavia, or when it was former Yugoslavia, prior to the war, which broke out in 1992.  I'm Bosnian Yugoslavian. So, my family were based in Bosnia at the beginning of the war. And I was born in Bosnia, and I was about  four, five, four years and a bit going on five when the war started. My grandmother, uh, is Bosnian as well.  As are the majority of my family. Um, and since the war where everybody dispersed as refugees, we've now got Kids and their kids from all different,  countries.
However,  back in the day, my grandmother Esma had a farm, um in Bosnia. She was definitely a herbalist, a very traditional, uh, lady. She had four children, all at home and she ran a farm and her husband, my granddad worked in Slovenia, which is another form of Yugoslavian country over the border. and would come home once a month, but this lady raised four children, three girls and one boy,  at a time where, you know, there were no, there were no nappies to buy in the supermarket, so you've got all your animals on the farm, then you've got your children, and Being a, being a traditionalist, she cooked everything from scratch.
So it was, literally, she had a life of waking up at 4am at  the farm side, having breakfast and food on the table for the children all to wake up, or breastfeeding and so on. And then, maintaining that kind of lifestyle 24 7. Superwoman. Yeah. I mean, she did everything from bake her own bread, to,  she grew her own corn and oats for, grinding down so that she had her own flour.
She had, uh, cows,  for the dairy part of the farm. I remember her chopping, chopping her chicken's head off , on a, what's it called? A log? Literally. She finds me off my Greek hand.  And she was very, very,  independent and capable. She also,read the Quran fluently in Arabic. She was multilingual at that time.

And she was the sage, i. e. the sage being that lady that you go to for the need of intuitive comfort. So With my Nana, she never ever, she felt pain and sadness when she watched, which I will speak about in a minute, the destruction when I saw her and how she watched the destruction of our country and family members.
But she never spent  long periods of time under a depressed turmoil. So she would feel, process, and then she was there for everybody else. as strong as ever.  Um, and she was the sage, or we, we actually nicknamed her the general. That was her nickname in our family. So she,  completely and utterly supported all of her children in anything that they wanted to do.
She gave very intuitive advice based on traditional medicines,  living with integrity.  Living  with a philosophy or  some level of,  discipline as well, whether people were religious or not, she would still talk about discipline, value, trust, family, , and how important it is to have your family close.
And until the day that she died, she still had all of us. around her. How lovely. Very capable. And, we were hit with the war in 1992. Um, and,  uh, to add to the story,  my mother, so my father, Fadil, was Obviously married to my mother, but he was 20 years older than my mother  and he kidnapped my mother on her wedding day to somebody else because he didn't want her to farm.
He didn't want her to marry into a farming family so that she would struggle like my grandmother did.  And my father was best friends with my grandfather. So he watched my mom grow up. Now you may think, Oh my God, that's a bit strange.  When she was in a wedding dress to get married to somebody else in her early twenties, my father was a very, very successful businessman in, uh, former Yugoslavia, Germany, and the Arab countries, in particular Egypt. And he also,  did a lot of work in Turkey too.  And, um, he kidnapped my mum on her wedding day at gunpoint and took her over the Alps to a completely different place. 

Bloody hell. 

And locked her up in a cabin and boarded up the windows and said to her, I am not going to do anything bad to you, but you are not marrying that man. 
I will take you back to your family after the wedding day is over. Anyway,  they were there for a month and a year after I was born. So she did, she did fall in love with my dad.  And then a year later I was born and a year after that my brother was born. my father absolutely adored my mother. He built her, he bought the land and built her a home adjacent, uh, overlooking my grandmother's home. So women had the support of each other. So I remember running across the fields when I was, uh, you know, about three, three or four years old to my grandmother's house.  And my mum watching me from one side and my grandmother waiting the other side. Um, he completely and utterly supported women being educated back in the day, which wasn't very common in Bosnia because most men. Did not support women being educated. My father, was married before my mum. So I had stepbrothers and sisters from his other marriage and his daughter, he actually sent off to Germany to study a degree when Nobody in our country was doing that. Women had a very traditional, uh, female role. , they would take care of the children. The men could come and go as they wish, as they pleased,  and provide for the families with the woman then doing the practical stuff like housework and the feeding and the cooking and the cleaning.  but my dad, he built this space for my mum. Um, and planted all her favourite flowers all around and eventually brought all of his businesses and his office space and everything to that home so that then they could build, um, their new bubble, their new life together.  

sounds very romantic. 

Yeah, it is that story.  You know, there could be a film made just on there. 

Yeah,  definitely. 

Everything was amazing. Uh, and then one day I remember being a tiny, tiny child. And I remember my father standing at the bottom of our drive  and I remember a doctor, um, speaking to him, who was a friend of his at the bottom of that drive.
And then my mum,  she appeared as well behind them. And the words I remember are, there is a war coming. You need to get yourself and your family out.  You've got the means to do so. Go now.  And my father being my father said, I will not leave,  uh, my grounds unless, um, my mum's mum, so my grandmother Esma, who we were talking about earlier, and my granddad will also leave the farm and the land and we could all go together.
He said, I'm not leaving them.  My father didn't really have a good relationship with his parents. Um, they abandoned him at, uh, quite a young age, hence why he became very independent, very successful by himself. Um,  he also did not want to leave my grandmother and my. grandfather because of my mother, um, and they wouldn't leave the land. 
So even though he had this opportunity to leave, he refused to. Now,  due to who my father was, uh, some of which I can and some of which I can't share, um, he had a lot of projects with different, um, governments, um, with different areas and sectors from gold mining to, , he was a, uh, a distributor for Rolls Royce and classic Mercedes parts and Mercedes for the whole of Europe.

Wow. 

And he spoke seven or eight languages, in the family, many of us speak quite a few languages, and love linguistics travel. Um,  and because of all of this, I think he was something like second or third on the hit list for a whole. Like city space or the town space around us. So there was no way he was not going to be hunted down because he had the, what they said was that he had , the power to create a rebellion against the Serbian army.
So being Bosnian, being quite powerful in that country, he had the ability to create his own rebellion and therefore to rise again. Yeah. Yeah. So,  some of the last memories I have is the war did come.  Uh, we were, tanks turned up outside, shooting, it all happened overnight. First thing 

Oh my goodness, how scary must that have been?

It was, it was petrifying and the, the tanks turned up, um, guns, shots, uh, shouts, screams. The women and children were pulled out of houses and put into one side. The men were dragged out and put onto another side.  And then the men were marched at gunpoint in front of tanks, uh, up the street and all, everybody was told to collate in this area in front of a neighbor's house.
So they started literally torturing the men from the moment go. We then had the women and children ushered to the same place so that they can watch the men being taken away from them or killed on the spot or beaten. And I remember  watching my dad's face. I remember watching my mom, my grandmother was there. 
Um, and then they took the men away.  And when they took the men away, a group of soldiers came towards my mom and said, he's gone, go back home, find any money, any gold, any, uh, possessions that he has. And give us all of your bank account details, or we'll kill you in 30 minutes. Um,  So they sent my mum back to our house down the road with my grandmother and two children in tow. 
And as she's walking, my grandmother says, you're not going back there. We're going to go to my house and we're going to run through the fields because you will be killed in half an hour.  As we arrived back home,  a group of soldiers were waiting. Sorry, as we were passing our house to go to my grandmother's house, a group of soldiers were waiting at my dad's.
So we have to pass one to get to the other. They took my mum, they beat her, they raped her, they burnt her alive on a sofa, and broke her nose, um,  and they then let her go to come to us,  bring us back to search for this, you know, they let her go and say you've got half an hour, this is what we want, or you're all dead. 
At that time, they, we literally went to my grandmother's house,  and my, uh, and they were coming, they were coming for us, they gave her that half an hour, she was bleeding. Um, we went to my grandmother's house and my grandmother said, Nope, we're going to run and we're going to make it through. So it's that sage again, that just in the middle of this shot goes, Nope, this is what we're going to do.  She was like a battle axe, you know? And, uh, I remember my grandmother grabbing me and my mum grabbing my brother,  shooting through the farm, literally, running, running, running.  You know, it was weird because we were running like a gunshot and then these gunshots just started coming at us in the, in the cornfields.
You could just, it was like, they were running and the gunshots from the valleys above were just, they could obviously see us, um, because the army was stationed up in the valleys,  the mountains as well. Um, and they just shot and shot and shot and somehow miracles happen. We managed to get out and into like a little hut, a safe hut. 
After that we ended up in a safe house, uh, but after that we were captured and put into concentration camps. So we spent the rest of our time as, uh, the, the war kids in a concentration camp. And I, I remember that being one of the worst, um, memories I've got because in a concentration camp you are starved.
It's very dark and it's very cold. So, you know, you develop this strange sense of like intimate smell, like very strong smell and your eyesight almost gets, it's weird. Your eyesight gets better and you align and adjust to living in darkness. But then every single night you're listening to the soldiers taking the women away, having their way with them.
Um, I remember a  lady,  With a baby and the baby was crying and they just took her baby and literally smashed it on the floor, killed the baby, uh, there in front of everybody, um, and, you know, the, the way I can talk about this now is because I have had to spend time in my life alchemising this pain and, um, accepting that my life is a pilgrimage and that I'm on a journey,  uh, and for whatever reason, uh, The pain that I am delivered is there to serve and to support and to help others through their journeys.
And, um, anyway, after the concentration camp, we were put into, somehow we were then transported from buses.  into houses, these safe houses. And we lived there for over a year. I became very sick. I got tuberculosis. My brother became very sick. He got tuberculosis.  Um, I nearly died twice. So I was saved. Uh, had to spend seven odd months in hospital under numerous tests and experiments until my mom just pulled us out in the end and said, right, well, we're going to heal the kids. Um, nothing's happening here. And  we were taken from Bosnia to Croatia. So the hospital I was in was in Croatia. Um,  and my mum won't talk about how exactly we got there, and I can't remember that piece of the story. So there's a lot that my mum won't share these days, that I feel like if she did, would definitely be more healing for her.
Um, when we  got to Croatia, we then lived in some safe houses. Um,  To be honest, it was, my mum literally had to take me out of that hospital, my brother, and it was the older women in the community there that created a, uh, like a, a natural based remedy for tuberculosis, otherwise I literally would have died.
And they collated animal fat with cacao, raw cacao, and, uh, and this is all that, this is that time ago as well, and everything else, and they mashed it. And that was the one thing that I was taking that started to heal me. Um, and it wasn't the big pharma myths. So it was, it was again, their intuition and their power, they had no access to anything.
Imagine there's no technology, there's no research. So it's all  old wives recipes. Um, and it worked. Passed down. Yeah. And it worked. Then the call came from my Grandmother's son who survived the concentration camps and was pulled out to the UK with the British Red Cross as a refugee. Um, he was one of the first to come here because he was one of the most wounded and injured.
Uh, and my uncle Senad is a very strong man and has been the only father figure we've got because my father was killed, uh, in the war. And the last time I saw him,  Part of his shoulder was missing because a grenade had hit him, killed my grandfather next to him. And my father got injured because he jumped to save somebody else's child.
So he jumped on top of a child, a stranger's child, to save that child and then got his shoulder taken off instead. And after that,  we didn't hear from him or of him up until eight years later when he was found in a mass burial grave. Uh, about two hours from where he was taken or so. Um, and we had a funeral for him eight years later after the war had finished, uh, as we did for my granddad as well, um, which was, which was difficult because when you don't hear that they're dead, you always think, Oh, there's, there's that kind of hope.

Yeah. 

Dani, as you're talking, this is just blow your mind things that have happened and that you've witnessed  and that you've been, that you've experienced.  

Yeah, not just witness, but experienced  it. 

I mean, I can barely stop. I can barely stop the tears coming from my eyes, to be honest. Just listen to your story. 

Yeah. Um, what I wanted to, to ask you is  you mentioned that you've  alchem, you've, you've, you've learned to alchemise  Um, your pain and you, you see life as a, as a pilgrimage. And what you said was really beautiful about the fact that you're, you're going through these almost lessons so you can then help and teach other people. 
Where did that, it sounds like that's innate in your family anyway. And that's a generational thing that's been passed down because we do, we do get past things down as you'll know from, from, from our family. But where does that, that strength and that resilience come from?  

I think it's a build up an ability of  learning survival skills very young.

Um, from how to keep warm, how to make fire, how to cook, how to clean, how to eat, whatever's available, uh, to watching the suffering amongst the generation older than me, that being the next generation up would be my mum, and then her generation would be my grandmother, watching that middle generation and what pain has done to them from, you know, Physical suffering from mental, um, illnesses, uh, and from physical illnesses and what stress and pain has done to them has taught me not to do it that way. 
Um, and to also think of ways and strategies, uh, to help support the generation below myself, sorry, above myself, which will then in turn help support the generation below myself, i. e. my daughter.  and her children. We are all born with, uh, seven levels of generational, uh, traumas and curses already embedded in us as babies, innocent babies.
We are already born with seven generations. Now, I decided that I would carry the positive and the, uh, wonderful elements of those seven generations before me, the teachings, the education and their ability, uh, their soul work, their healing, their light work, and I wouldn't carry the negative. the generational curses. 
It was a decision I made, it took me as far as to about 30. Um, but it was watching that pain and suffering, learning the survival skills. And also, I think that  throughout all of this, you gain a level of understanding and empathy,  um, towards people who are suffering.  And, you know, pain, love, uh, anger, um, all of these are If, if I dare I say are just a form of feeling,  if you take away the bullet point reasons behind them, and you just say them as emotions or feelings,  they all hold value and should be looked at In a very similar way. It's just that happiness and love have lots of positive connotations around them. So when we feel happy and we feel that we are loved or we are in love and we are giving love, it's okay. There's like a positive aura around it. However, if you are hurting and you are in pain mentally or physically, we are taught it's negative, negative, negative, bad, bad, bad, sad, sad, sad.
However,  if you look at pain, so when, when pain comes towards me now, I look at it and I go.  Okay, that hurts. That makes me sad. What am I going to do with that energy that is in that pool right now? So I don't let it leave this kind of pool.  Until I decide what I'm going to create,  where I'm going to use it as my power, and how it's going to serve me.

What's it going to fuel?  

Yeah,  

um, when you made that decision, Dani, um, to,  Take it to the positive rather than focus on what's happened,  and the trauma.  Did you have help with that or did you do that off your own bat?  

Um, initially I did it off my own bat. , and I had a very enlightened moment,  when I was lying on a sofa with a, it had like a ceiling Uh, window in it and I was looking through it and it was very, very strange. It's almost like this stuff just started falling out of me and going up towards that light and that window and I can never explain it, but it happened. And from that moment, I've just seen everything differently.  Else happened was, throughout my journey, I did a lot of reading myself,  texts that were banned.
Um, a huge recommendation I've got, whether you're male or female, whether you've had children or not, is a book called Womb Awakening, which takes you back to your sacredness and to your origins and to your beginnings and explains symbolisms and feelings.  How to bring elements of nature into your life and to focus on the gifts that we are given rather than, you know, the turmoil that we are given and how those gifts can then become Uh, tools to benefit yourself and others and to help others how that, um, I then, when I got to a certain level, I did go and see a quantum healer, hence the club is called Club Quantum.

I was gonna ask you about that. I didn't wanna interrupt you, but I,  I was like,  there's a bloody reason this club's called Quantum. 

So Quantum is, as you know, uh, spirituality, psychology and science, the marriage of.  And quantum healing and quantum growth and quantum leaping is always about the growth mindset, right?
Uh, the transitioning mindset. The reason I love snakes and serpents is because if they didn't shed their skin, they would die. They physically cannot not shed their skin, they have to. Um, and they're also the as above so below, the Kundalini. Um, and so it's all a 360, uh, and I did see a quantum healer for probably about five sessions, I think. 
But the rest I've definitely had to do through mindset, reading, and then what I read I need to apply. Um, So I'm not, if I give somebody advice or I share an experience, it's always only going to be from what I've seen, lived through or experienced myself.
That's the way that I feel I can take other's pain.  Um, and I, I feel like I can take other's pain and I can show them and maybe another way around it. And then it leaves me without it. Massively affecting me back to them  to then try and help themselves. I know that you're an entrepreneur.

I know that, you're part of club quantum.  I know that you're part of a trippy Panther, love that name. And I know that you are a management and strategy consultant as well. So you've obviously got A lot of strings to your bow, but what you were just talking about,  are you involved in the personal development,  coaching industry. Have you got anything to do with any of that? Because I think you probably should have,  

um, thank you. My bread and butter is, earned through my edtech,  educational company, and we publish,  build apps, and systems for,  kids education cross globally to military and aviation training programmes. 
I'm actually qualified in teacher training and I am train the trainer as well. Back in the day, I was a teacher from  the Chinese calendar.  So I tried to bring an element of Education to every single business or venture that I go into, because I feel like if you educate people on your,  on your brand and your identity, being from your true life experiences, your life is your, uh, trademark.
It is your identity. It should be the value of your business. Not just those like very cold kind of hit this target, hit this target.  Let's spend 90 percent of our budget on marketing, but actually not really identify.  Why,  um, we're marketing it as it is and what soul business has value to the real values, not just sticking values on a wall and not really paying attention to them.

Yeah. Yeah. 

And  throughout that process, I have done talks. I've done training sessions. I,  started up the strong community lead, which was originally strong female lead.  And the strong female lead was a series of workshops and talks and training sessions that got, women aligned business and life aligned.
And we started that in my house in Tunbridge Wells  and that then led on to.  Events that we did in the local area that then turned into the strong community lead because there were men that wanted to join and we will basically help support, , men and women in business and life, the transition through, but also in spirituality and healing.
We had lots of local businesses,  involved in that as well. I've done,  training sessions on overcoming I've written courses, various courses, I'm not a coach as such, but I do do, uh,  influential talks. I would say that all based on. The idea of overcoming,  and just aligning with current, phases, trends, , the idea of the changes around the world, whether it be technology influenced or not, where women are completely and utterly changing.
The last two years have , seen a complete different element  To the level that women can,  allow their darkness to shine as well as their light. So,  um, everybody has I like the level of darkness in them and it's so closed and it's so forbidden and it's so the last two years have said, hang on a minute, let's work with your darkness.
Let's work with your darkness. How can you utilize that to your strengths? How can you manage that? How can you create boundaries around yourself and others?  Being a boundary queen was one of my talks that I did. Oh, wow. Amazing. Yeah.  So it was, I feel that now we can, and people fail to often understand or see or admit that we are all a mirror of each other. 
What we often don't like in others is what we don't like in ourselves. 

Absolutely right. 

Yeah, totally agree with you. Yes.  

You know, resentment, anger, jealousy, these all come from,  these are all within people who have often had a very traumatic childhood, abandonment issues. And the idea of not feeling good enough and not feeling worthy.
So I've done quite a few talks around self love and feeling worthy.  Because if you can't find the love within, it's going to be very hard to find the love without.    And I love working with darkness. I love working with the idea that,  I don't know, going in We did a session on women going through the menopause in the workspace.
it was phenomenal. Like the misunderstandings, the negativity around it. And for me, something like the menopause or what they call the midlife crisis, it's just your rebirth and your awakening.  You should make the most of it. So it's just, I love turning all these like negatives into  a positive and a growth mindset.

Well, that's what you've done with your life, isn't it? that's exactly what you've done. 

Turn problems into opportunities. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Problems into opportunities,  

What was the catalyst For Club Quantum then? 

So I'm 50 percent owner of Club Quantum. Um, it was originally my idea. I wanted a private members club,  later on in life. And I've been a member of, and been into quite a few through, because I,  with my business strategy and development, I work with companies cross globally, more so than in the UK, and I also help people build brand,  vision and identity if they want to go cross global.
So if they want to build a product or a service or a brand and go with the thought process of it being a global, , brand from the beginning, that's what I would work with. Okay. So,  Liam and I aligned,  on my birthday a couple of years back, , to do a, uh, Dragon's Den type,  activity  with some of the schools here in Tunbridge Wells. 
And anyway,  we were talking one day, uh,  in the middle of,  going from meeting to meeting. And I said, a private member's club would be a great idea in Tunbridge Wells.  And he said, Oh, I like the sound of that. What does it entail? So we discussed it and he went, Oh, there's a building. You're either going to love it or you're going to hate it.
Do you want to do this now? Or do you not want to do this now? And I was like, Oh,  and, uh,  I visited the building and I am not joking you the energy in this space.  It's absolutely phenomenal and I didn't come away. And through a lot of hard work, determination, tears, um, and you know, uh, resilience, we have created a space here that is not only serving memberships, but it's also serving our community for events.
We've had some amazing events in here to date. We've got a very beautiful speakeasy kind of bar.  lounge, and a baby grand piano here,  atmosphere. To the front, we have a public,  cafe and community space, which serves food and coffee throughout the day, and it has its own bar. But we are encouraging a lot of community through that cafe area as well,  and doing community projects,  from with the art galleries to the local businesses.
That the idea of the club is that it, when you walk in, The level of the sound, the smells, the food,  it's all conscious.  And there is a level of consciousness to everything we bring in here. There's a level of personal identity to everything we bring in here as well.  , the Johnny Depp bunny genesis,  collection up on the wall  is the bunny genesis because I'm a bunny.
We've got like little, uh,  dragons up in, on, on the bar shelves. My daughter's a dragon in the Chinese calendar. Oh yeah.  So there's a lot of personable kind of. element to the space, and the woman was responsible for heading up the physical construction,  uh, and with our structural architect and his team, because we didn't even have concrete on the floor when we moved in here.

Wow. 

I then was responsible for the way this place looks.  

You've done a first class job. It's, I love it in there. 

And we now dip in and out of each area, um, and allow kind of use of the space to, to the people that understand and appreciate what we've built. 

Uh, wow. I can't wait to, I can't wait to come and see it. I'm so excited.  

It's just so beautiful. It really is.  

It's like an oasis, isn't it? 

Yes. And because of the way that it's constructed, once you come away from the public space, as soon as you walk through the Arabic doors, even though it's a speakeasy bar and we do allow people in, we allow everyone to come in and have a drink, it's, it's a hideout. 
There is none of that. Oh, we're a flashy on the, you know, on the panel, kind of like, no offense to anyone on panels, but we, you don't need to be seen to be in here. You just need. Right. And haven't you teamed up with, um, Atul Kutcher as well for the food? With Essence.

I love Atul! 

Oh, with Essence, I know. I love him!

Yeah, you've teamed up with Essence. We have. Yeah, and, and Bibi as well. I love Bibi, she's so lovely. 

Oh, she's lovely. Bibi Roy, 

yeah. It's BB, Ato and Jeet. The team are absolutely phenomenal and their general manager Roger  Essence will be catering some of our canapes for our events. Um, we cater a lot in house but we sometimes have to bring in additional help because of the size of our events and how busy it is over the Christmas period as well.
we've also teamed up with the Tunbridge Wells magazine and Nick and the team. Yes. Um, on further and future events. So watch this space.  We promote and,  work with loads of local businesses, even on things like. The coffee. So the coffee is a local coffee roastery called Kinn, and they are amazing. And milk, for example, Happy Cows, it's a local farm.
And then took to local gin companies,  local, uh, specialists in antiques.
So in the club all the furniture is very unique. It was either made for the club,  or it was reupholstered for the club. So some of the chairs have materials on them from the 1800s.  The wood at the bar is from Kingdom, which is Oh, I love the wood of the bar. I love it. Kingdom.  A friend of mine owns the land and in 1987 when the trees fell down,  that wood was originally from then, from that storm that happened in Oh my gosh.

And that's  you were born as well, right? 

Yes. Yeah.  , that's one of my favorite things is the wood at the bar. Yeah. And that I love it. Table is from the same land. 

That's incredible what you've done. 

Um, and then Amy at the Cove for the flowers completely gets the vision. 

I love my cove.  

Yeah, Amy. Brilliant.  I don't know what we've never met, but because I live in Dubai and I know the coves really good. And that's where I get all the flowers from.

I was in there the other day and  I was talking to her about that beautiful bouquet of flowers that you sent me, Abi. And I was saying to her, because I get flowers, I buy my flowers from there as well. And I said, Oh, my daughter sent me this. I just wanted to pop in and let you know how beautiful the flowers are and how long they've lasted as well. You know, they're just really sweet because I practice my hypnotherapy above the cove. 

Oh, do you? 

Yes. On the high street in Tunbridge Wells in the practice rooms. Yes. So it's a lovely space. 

Yes. It's beautiful space.  Brilliant. And then Melissa was Lumiere was our quantum lights, which she's pretty phenomenal. 

Oh, she is the lights. Beautiful. 

Yeah. Everybody comments on these beautiful lights in there.

I can't wait to come now guys. I'm going to be looking at everything. Like how many serpents can I see? How many little game.  

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.  

Dani,  I asked you earlier about, did you have help with your mindset or,  was it yourself?And I noticed that,  you said at some point about boss babe mindset. Is boss babe somebody that you follow? 

 Um, there are numerous,  boss Babe mindset quotes that are published, but I'm referring to boss babe mindset as the way that I like to live. Yeah. And for me, I feel that wherever we are, whether it's walking down the street,  walking into, uh, your workspace or your business or appearing on something that has to kind of, or they should be this level of aura that we. 
And it's that  I'm capable. I am worthy. Don't mess with me. Mindset.  And it's that takes some, uh, strength and resilience because, you know, the Tom Petty song, Rhinoskin. Yeah, rhino skin is referenced to us developing a rhino skin because of experiences within life and developing strength 

I like Tom Petty, but I'm not sure I'm familiar with rhino skin  

you've got to listen to that song, it's absolutely amazing. And so I've got this idea that I like to just walk into a space and just, and I think it's also a level of protection.
I carry like that protective element around me, like a little bubble.  And I won't do what I don't want to do. I won't appear where I don't want to appear. And if energies don't align, um, I won't say yes to what I don't need to say yes to. 

I love that. And you know what? I felt so privileged when you said that you would actually be on our podcast 

I was privileged to be asked.  

I'm like, Oh my goodness. I love the fact that Dani said yes. Cause I was so excited. I said to Abi, Dani, said yes to being on our podcast. And she was so excited. I was just like, yeah. She was. Yeah. 

And you know what, Danny, what you're saying,  it takes a lot for  people. And I think especially women, um, to do that. And as you were saying, when you did the, boundary queen talk, and to set those boundaries, because quite often, We play characters as we go through life and  we hide behind this mask  and a lot of the time we do it so often that we actually forget who we really are and just being able to say no to something, simply saying no to something and not feeling bad about it is.It's quite a big thing for us to do.  

Because we all carry archetypes, right? So, mother, queen, the sage, and so on. However, like, who are you? What is your favorite color? Do you actually wear that color? Or do you think, Oh, you know, I shouldn't wear that color. Maybe I'll just wear black again. Or do you, you know, how it's like everyone has their nails done the same.
It's like, do you have your nails done the same because it's trending and you've seen it somewhere else? So do you go in there and go, actually today I want that color on that nail when I want to do this. And I feel that there's a huge difference in confidence levels of somebody who is more confident able to do that and somebody who isn't. And a lot of that is down to their self worth.  And, you know, if I could just show people, as many people on earth as possible, that their self worth is probably a load more than what they perceive it to be and the reasons why it is. And people don't really give themselves credit for just getting up every day and surviving.
Like, that's just expected, you know? Uh. Men and women don't give themselves credit for when they are feeling bad, uh, whether it be due to mental health or poorly, being poorly. They don't take the time and space and break to understand how they're feeling and listen to their bodies a lot of the time.
Some people do, a lot of people don't. Um,  and 

Yes, mum, remember that lesson. 

It's the let's just get on with it attitude. I love the let's just get on with it attitude if it's a solution based approach. But being a strategist  This is the thing. I'm always going to look at it in the long run and I'm going to look at it on a holistic level.
If you get up and you're feeling poorly, you then go into work with, I don't know, a cold or a flu, you're probably going to infect three other members of your team, your staff or kids or whatever, which is then in a week's time going to affect  The runnings of that company or that business or your workspace or your children or school or something.
So just don't  Yeah, it's hard because so many Jobs at the moment pay hourly. So it's like okay. So what's the solution to this? Let's make a stand I have no issue with making a stand  And trying to help people understand that they can speak out. Um, there are ways of doing everything. That's why strategies exist.
There's a way around things.  There's a solution to every problem. And I think the Boss Babe mindset is leading and helping other people see that too. But speaking out when things aren't right. Yeah. For me, again, there is a level of,  integrity, a level of, uh,  what's the word? A level of integrity, a level of trust, a level of professionalism to maintain.
Um, however, you know, walking around  with the strength to know that even if you feel bad on this one day, you could help someone or you could help yourself,  um, no matter how you're feeling in that day. And I think when it's time to say no,  Or to sit back and relax and rest like the wintertime, we should be hibernating and it's very autumnal.
So therefore, especially in women with the cycles and the way that the moon operates, we should be taking the time to hibernate.  And just, you know, on saying no,  I think that  , with you, Dolina, when you said to come on the podcast, and I,  I'm a true believer of if you do something with the right intention for the right reasons out of love, compassion, and empathy, you'll always do well.
The reason that your podcast,  Between the Two of You, exists is just to do that.  And you are sharing, overcoming an absolute tragic aspect of life, of pain, of hurt.  Reign When It's Raining explains how to do that when you're in pain. And I think for me, if something resonates and it's true,  true to the core of its existence, I want to be part of that.
Or I will buy, if it's a brand that's out there, and there is truth behind its existence, I will choose to buy that over one that I know.  It's not built on, on truth 

making me emotional  

when you can see and you can tell, and I can tell, and others will be able to tell why you exist, why your podcast exists.
Um, I can see where your podcast, or I can feel where your podcast will take others, how it will help others. And even if anything that you mentioned or speak of, or any of us ever speak of in a someone else. That is your mission. You are. 

Oh, oh, yes. Totally.  

Yeah. It's your pilgrimage. 

That's, yeah, absolutely.

That's why  so much of what you're saying just absolutely resonates with us and, um, gosh, I've got literally got tears going down my face and, uh, but in a good way.  

Do you know what, Dani?  I've said this before, not to you, but many, many years ago, this clairvoyant said to me, this is when I was a lot younger, she said to me,  in a previous life, you lived in France and you were a shaman.
And I'm like,  you don't know what you're talking about, you know? And then when I went to university to study hypnotherapy, one of my teaching books, the original hypnotherapists were shamans who lived in France.  And I'm like,  synchronistic. Wow. Yeah,  . 

Oh my God. Yeah.  This is, I know. I know that the work I do and the results with my hypnotherapy is huge for me.
And seeing people just even for one or two sessions of hypnotherapy because I'm so passionate about the work. You're doing it from the heart, and very obvious, just like you two are doing here. And Dolina, you, you were the podcast and you were spoken about to me and Abi by Nick Moore from the Tunbridge Wells magazine.

Oh, I love Nick. He's so lovely. 

About you and what you do and, um, said to me, Have you met her? 

I said, I've seen her.  We've never had the time to actually fully talk until that moment when we were supposed to be doing something else.  

Oh, wow. Timing is everything, hey?  I can't wait to listen to this back because everything that you speak about, It's just everything is just like these little nuggets of wisdom and gold and  you are wise beyond your years. Um,  what, yeah, no, you really are. It really, really comes across.  What would you like our audience to take away from your experiences? 

I would like them to find a level of acceptance within themselves for what is happening to them in the present.  I would like them to accept that living in the past is where depression lies,  living in the future is where anxiety lies,  living in the present moment and the level of acceptance and understanding to what's happening, even if it hurts, take it,  feel it, process it,  wake up tomorrow. 
Different mindset. So I'd like them to understand that actually where happiness lies, or the idea of happiness, everybody's is different, is in the present moment.  And whether it be about what you've seen or experienced, remember that thought process to the past, unless you are utilizing it to build, is where depression lies. 
And then if you're worrying about what the doctor's going to say in your next appointment in the future,  86, 87 percent of your thoughts never actually happen. So you are wasting time thinking about that, then enjoying, seeing, feeling, even if it's bad sometimes. We're not enjoying the present, this present moment right now.
And time for me is not linear. Time is a transcendence over different portals. So for me, not to accept the timing that I'm in right now  is not sacred. I feel that if, unless we're in the present moment, accepting and living, we are almost,  downgrading our capability. Uh, for the sacred, uh, alignment that we have been gifted from the universe. 
There are people I have seen and spoken to and done talks, in front of who have spent their whole life chasing a career that they think they should be in, that they want to be chasing, ,  something that they think is for them. When the universe is like, Nope, Nope, Nope. They've had every setback. They keep getting pushed back.
They keep getting pushed back. How do you help those people to see that maybe it's not right for them? Maybe there's something much more beautiful something much more worthy of them  out there  That's the bit I think that we need to kind of hone in on so it's not just about  I want people to kind of live  knowing that  if tomorrow never comes you lived your best life today  even if it hurts  and To finalize on that and you may or may not be able to show these above me.
There's three paintings  Okay, and they are from, 

 Go a little bit higher, a little bit, there we go. 

Castle Fine Arts, so Castle Fine Arts are our art partner. And the, the beautiful James McQueen, right? This one here, shit happened. 

Love that. 

That one there, it started with a kiss, and the one at the end, oh bollocks.
We sold that one, actually. It's going somewhere. 

Oh, really?

 Because it's her favourite saying, my friend called me for Helen. 

I do say that a lot. Mum's always like, I swear that's your favourite word, Abs. 

And then you kind of go, okay, shit happens, move on. Like, what do we do about this?
Um, and it's hard, isn't it? When it's happening to you, and there's pain in your heart, you're like, how the f I move on from this, but there is a way. 

There is a way, 

yes, i, I noticed that you said as well, um, a while ago, it doesn't serve you to scroll through other's wins. So show up every day, no matter what it takes. What do you mean by that?  

Often I hear people say.  And I really don't do this myself. Look how well they're doing. I wish I was doing that well. That should be me.  Oh, look what they're wearing. I'm gonna go and buy that exact outfit because it might look good on me too. Or, um, look what they're wearing.
I need to lose weight so I can look good in that outfit. Or, looking at other people's wins. I, scrolling, I take as a reference term because of the impact that the media has on people. young people and absolutely closing off a mind that can think for itself and showing us what should be a win, what should be the fashion, what should be the trend.
And it's like scrolling through what they identify as the best of everything is not going to help you become the best of everything. That is different to listening to an influencer speak or becoming an influencer or listening to a healer speak. There's levels, but when it's just scrolling through people's wins only, not listening to their downfalls, not listening to their failures, not looking at  things that may or may not,  be in fashion right now to wear, not buying the same as everybody else.
Not eating the same as everybody else. It doesn't mean that you're not winning.  Uh, and as long as you place yourself in having to compare yourself as being those people, you are spending less time being your own winner. Yeah.  Yeah. And , you're just being an almost another sheep and not being true to you, true to yourself.

Yeah.  We were having this conversation about the social media, but it's how many people, share their the bad parts, not that many when it's in the  context that you're talking about, yes, they'll share their win and they'll share this glossy lifestyle and everything else and that's what you're seeing constantly.  And you're thinking not you, but one might think,  well, you know, what am I doing wrong?  Why haven't I got this? And that's the comparison coming in. 

Yeah. And resentment and anger and jealousy and envy.
So all of those things are there to make you feel bad.  And then that, and then you're in that energy. Yeah. You know, it's not, people want, Oh, look at that. I want that. It's like  that isn't, that's not love. All you need to do is maybe say, uh, and everyone's different, but you could just say, I'm so happy that you have that. 
However this other thing is for me. 

Yeah. 

You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. 

And if you don't have it, be happy for what you do have, because gratitude is, oh yeah. Gratitude is what takes you to your next level.  It's everything. Gratitude is the difference between what you have now and where you wanna get to.

Yeah. 

It's the level of gratitude that you align with, have and keep yourself and for others.  Um, and without gratitude and acceptance of the present  and the good things in your life in the present.  Won't listen.! 

Yeah.  You've just been an absolute,  it's been incredible to meet you.  

Thank you both so much. 

You've been amazing. 

Thank you. 

Thank you for your time. Thank you, Dani. 

It's healing being part of your podcast because you get to kind of speak about life  and the journey as well. So this kind of concept is the healing passage, isn't it?

Yeah. So thank you so much. 

Thank you. Thank you.  Thank you for being so vulnerable as well and for sharing and open. We really appreciate it. 

You're so welcome. Ditto. Lots of love. 

Bye darling. 

See you. Bye.  

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Today's key takeaways are: 

1. One, energy and intuition guide us. 
2. Two, pain is a source of strength and transformation.
3. Three, reframe challenges as opportunities. 
4. Four, Make conscious choices about what to carry forward and what to leave behind.  
5. Five,Align with your true self instead of imitating others. Embrace what truly resonates with you. 
6. Six, Saying no is a strength, not a weakness. 
7. Seven, Be present, not perfect.  
8. Eight, Comparison is the thief of joy. 
9. Nine, Gratitude fuels growth.  

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